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4/2/07 6:50:44 PM Opening "Chat Log 4-2-07"

Robert D Brown: Hi Rhonda
cuebon4: she is coming soon
Reudaly: Actually, she snuck in behind you
PCarlson: ah
Robert D Brown: hee
PCarlson: that is what Redheads do
Rose1533: Hi, Paul
Reudaly: Not really -- most Redheads march in boldly
Robert D Brown: Rhonda, I'm disappointed you didn't come to MSC, but the girls did a great job anyway
PCarlson: true, true
Robert D Brown: It sounds like you had a good weekend anyway
Rose1533: Hi, Micki
Reudaly: I know, I didn't think I could do another convention, but AggieCon ended up being totally free, so I jumped there.
Reudaly: It was a good weekend.
Mallie1025: Hi guys
Robert D Brown: very kewl
Rose1533: Hi, tom.
PHeeren: hi
PCarlson: I sent a general invite to the whole Writers on AOL list, also
Mallie1025: I didn't think there were free conventions.
Rose1533: Wish they'd do another convention in Fort Worth. Went to one in 1995, but haven't notice one at the convention center since then.
Rose1533: Of course, I haven't always been in FW all that time, either.
Robert D Brown: Rhonda, are you coming to Conestoga?
PHeeren: hi rob
Rose1533: That's what you get for being attached to the military.
Reudaly: The closest one to Fort Worth is ConDFW and FenCon
Reudaly: Both EXCELLENT conventions, btw
Mallie1025: I wonder if my city -borough actually-- has a convention center
Rose1533: When and where is Con DFW?
Reudaly: And as for Conestoga -- unfortunately, that's the day we leave for San Diego Comic Con
Rose1533: And FenCom for that matter.
Reudaly: ConDFW is in February in North Dallas - www.condfw.org (Keyword to: www.condfw.org)
Robert D Brown: you mean <sniff><sniff> you can't ... come?!?
Reudaly: FenCOn is in Addison Sept. 21-23, 2007 - www.fencon.org (Keyword to: www.fencon.org)
Reudaly: FenCon's GOH is Connie Willis
Reudaly: Is this everyone or are we still waiting for people?
Mallie1025: A few more will probably wander in
Rose1533: Oh!!! That is so cool!
Rose1533: I have her autograph, but I've never met her.
Reudaly: If you'd like to get involved, FenCon's always looking for volunteers.
PCarlson: A friend of mine wants to attend her first Con, in Salt Lake City
Rose1533: Why is everything on the east side of the Metroplex, though? ::::sigh::::
Rose1533: Might just do that. But I can't commit this far in advance.
Reudaly: I've often asked myself that same question. And mostly it's come down to this...
PCarlson: a rather staid LDS lady -- I told her to prepare for some culture shock
Reudaly: Dallas is got the reputation of being THE place. And Fort Worth the "step child".
Rose1533: Not on Fort Worth!
Reudaly: Fort Worth folk will go to Dallas, but Dallas people rarely cross the county line to come to Fort Worth
Rose1533: Fort Wroth is where the West begins. Dallas is where the East fizzles out!
PCarlson: LOL
Reudaly: LOL I like that
PCarlson: the climate really is different
Robert D Brown: Sushi, that's a bit of an understatement
PCarlson: and not only socially
Rose1533: There's a bumper sticker that says that.
Robert D Brown: And Hobby Field is where Two Worlds collide
PHeeren: Adam's coming, I gave him the link
Rose1533: Hobby?
Reudaly: Hobby Field?
PCarlson: airport
PCarlson: the old one, yes?
Robert D Brown: yup
Reudaly: Isn't' that in Houston?
Rose1533: I think that's in Houston
Reudaly: DFW has DFW and Love Field
Rose1533: The 'old' one in Dallas is Love
PCarlson: ah
Robert D Brown: sorry, wrong city
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PCarlson: hi Adam
Rose1533: LOL! That's OK.
Robert D Brown: Love Field
Rose1533: Southwest flies out of there.
Rose1533: But I'd rather go to DFW any day!
Robert D Brown: I'll just sit back and be quiet, watch the show....
Reudaly: Only because it's more centrally located
Reudaly: No you wont
Rose1533: Of course, I also live just north of one of the highways that feeds into DFW.
PHeeren: where JFK and Jackie spent last hrs before going to Market St
PHeeren: correct?
Reudaly: This is audience participation
PHeeren: I
Rose1533: OK, I switched to black. Boring.
Reudaly: So, I was going to ask if we should get started "officially".
PCarlson: guess we can get rolling
PCarlson: officially, even
Rose1533: Are we going to be in protocol?
Reudaly: I have no idea
PCarlson: it's up to Rhonda
PCarlson: "?" and "g/a" and stuff
Rose1533: Yes, that's protocol.
PCarlson: may not be needed if this doesn't get any fuller
Reudaly: Oh, please no. Let's just wing it
Reudaly: I'm pretty casual
Rose1533: LOL!
Rose1533: Fine with me!
Reudaly: Do I need to introduce myself?
Rose1533: Please do.
PCarlson: please do
PHeeren: please do
Rose1533: gmta
Reudaly: Okay, here it is... Hi, I'm Rhonda Eudaly. I write what people pay me for.
Reudaly: Mostly I do short stories, articles, things like that
Rose1533: LOL! That's it?
Reudaly: I'm expounding
Reudaly: I'm currently best known for FOUR REDHEADS OF THE APOCALYPSE by Yard Dog Press, where I write "Zoe" who is now Death
Mallie1025: Wow--and you actually make good money on short/articles? I never did.
Reudaly: I never said I make GOOD money, but I get paid.
Mallie1025: LOL I hear that!!
Reudaly: As Allan Cole said old Grand Masters used to say that we all "eatin' jobs"
Reudaly: That being said, I've been published a dozen or so times in a wide range of publications - fiction and non-fiction, small press and nationally (non-fic). I can speak about the short form, markets, marketing on the cheap, etc
Reudaly: What would you guys like to talk about?
Reudaly: I'm also funny. I hope that comes across. Much of my short story work is in humor
Mallie1025: sorry--keyboard tantrum
Reudaly: I've also had several flash fiction pieces published, if that's of interest to anyone
Reudaly: Okay, now you go...
PCarlson: I was asked to speak about Humor writing
Reudaly:
PCarlson: funny thing, since I am not known for it
Mallie1025: Newspapers re even worse--same poor pay even if you make the front page!
Reudaly: That's always a trick
Rose1533: What? Talking about something you're not known for?
PCarlson: I winged it
Rose1533: Or the poor pay of newspapers?
Reudaly: Being asked to talk about something you don't "do". But if you're good, you can come up with some very plausible BS
Reudaly: I do it ALL THE TIME
Reudaly:
Rose1533: LOL!
Rose1533: So do I. It's the chat I host on Tuesdays!
Rose1533: Hi, Becky
Mallie1025: Rhonda, where do you sell your humor-I write that best but only seem to sell to the papers?
Reudaly: I've sold most of it to Yard Dog Press. Because, honestly, it's the hardest thing in the world to sell.
Robert D Brown: <applause>
Mallie1025: yes, I agree--except oddly newspapers will often take them
Reudaly: Humor is so subjective -- especially in an already subjective industry. You never know who's going to "GET" you
Reudaly: There's the rest of that thought.
Mallie1025: Standard pay--about 40 dollars per article of say 1000 words
Beccastrat: Hi Carol
Rose1533: Hey! That's $40 more than I would have normally.
Reudaly: But my experience is in genre fiction, so I've not sold to newspapers yet
Reudaly: fiction
Reudaly: I've written non-fic for newspapers
Rose1533: The only thing I've had published is one article in our church paper that ended up so edited, it wasn't even my piece anymore, though they gave me credit for it.
Rose1533: Wish they hadn't
Reudaly: But that's a story with an unhappy ending, we won't go there.
Mallie1025: I would guess fiction humor to be harder than slice of life? to market?
Rose1533: That and pictures in pictorial directories and elementary school yearbooks.
Reudaly: I would say so. Slice of life is -- from what I understand -- looking for the lighter and the upbeat, hence being more open to humor
Rose1533: What genre of fiction do you write?
Mallie1025: Rose when an editor does that it is usually all about ego--theirs!
Reudaly: Fiction -- and genre fiction -- you have to be careful to not cross the line between funny and stupid
Rose1533: A church newspaper, though?
Rose1533: No one gets paid for that!
Reudaly: I write Science Fiction, Fantasy, Dark Fantasy, and I just placed my first murder mystery piece
Rose1533: I'm writing an Epic Fantasy.
Rose1533: But just finished reading the first book of Abarat.
Rose1533: That is a WEIRD book.
Mallie1025: rose, ego is ego everywhere
Reudaly: Good for you. Those are tough to do well, good luck to you
Rose1533: Thanks.
Reudaly: Any thing else?
Reudaly: Bueller, Bueller, Bueller?
Rose1533: I've always been told not to make it to weird (I DID spell that wrong the first time, didn't I) or it becomes unbelievable.
Mallie1025: Rhonda, I am just beginning to sell short fiction--maybe a half dozen--how long are your shorts usually?
Rose1533: Reader can't suspend belief. That one is on the razor's edge, but he gets by by making the characters so likable.
Reudaly: Weird is as subjective as humor. As long as YOU believe it and can make someone else believe, then you've got no problem
Rose1533: Do you have any of your fantasy published?
Reudaly: My short stories run 500 - 4500 words typically. I hit a good rhythm with about 2500=3500. Though I do have a 13K novelette with a writing partner
Mallie1025: Nice range--my longest was only 1900--I seem to hit 1000 words and it's over lol
Reudaly: Yes, actually almost all of mine would be considered fantasy even with space involved. But they're not epic or high fantasy
Mallie1025: a habit from newspaper commentary lol
Reudaly: There's actually a growing market for short shorts and flash fiction. It's actually harder to right short than long
Mallie1025: Have you ever considered stretching to novels?
Reudaly: At least so I've discovered.
Rose1533: I have a sci-fi 'short' that's 6k!
Reudaly: I've got some novels in me. I'm in the final drafts of a novel now that I'm hoping to have ready for the publication routes very soon.
Rose1533: It may end up as a book since I have two sequels to it.
Rose1533: Both a good bit shorter.
Reudaly: That happens too.
Reudaly: I've found that stories know what they're going to be and you can't deny them
Reudaly: They're either short stories or novels
Rose1533: LOL!
Mallie1025: Rhonda that's great--I am hoping for that too--but so many pages overwhelm me
Rose1533: I know.
Rose1533: It was a dream I had that didn't fit into my fantasy novel, so it became its own story.
Reudaly: Then don't ever force it. If your stories are short, then embrace the short. But realize you won't make a living at it.
Rose1533: Do you ever get any of your ideas from dreams as I do?
Reudaly: Sometimes. If I can remember them coherently enough
Reudaly: I have a partially finished story that came from a dream. I pull it out every so often
Rose1533: True. I haven't been able to do that lately, for some reason.
Mallie1025: From what my novelists friends tell me they are making much either--and look how much harder they work
Reudaly: You always keep your "Eatin' Job", but dream of becoming the next JK Rowling
Reudaly: Someone has to
Reudaly: Might as well be one of us
Mallie1025: aren't making money I mean
PCarlson: yep
Rose1533: I figured that out.
Rose1533: My husband has the "eatin' job".
Rose1533: Me? I just spend all the money. (I pay the bills.)
Reudaly: Or you find a niche market in the non-fiction world that will pay you enough to eat and write, or have a spouse to do it for you. Either way... it's all good
Mallie1025: I think I only have one book in me-a memoir--to be pubbed in September -that's all she wrote! I
Reudaly: I've thought a time or two of finding a sugar daddy, but I think now my fiancé would frown on that
PCarlson: LOL
Mallie1025: Ya think?
Rose1533: My hubby is not a sugar daddy.
Reudaly: You never know. We all go through the "one hit wonder" fear, but then something hits. The Plot Bunny lands in the yard
PCarlson: a Texas oil man of 90 who dotes on flash-fic
PCarlson: JR where are you now?
Reudaly: I didn't' mean to imply that he was
Rose1533: No, I didn't say you did.
Rose1533: Just letting you know.
Rose1533: He's retired military, actually. Yup, I'm an officer's wife.
Rose1533: And Emily is an Air Force Brat.
Reudaly: Cool
Rose1533: Actually, it became part of my book, sort of.
Reudaly: That's good. You're writing what you know
Mallie1025: Rhonda, how does flash fic pay? I have been considerating those since they like shorts
Reudaly: Gives whatever your doing a note of reality
Rose1533: Instead of knights, I have the king's army with officers like the Army and Air Force.
Mallie1025: Rose wish our soldiers had some of your fantasy weapons!
Reudaly: Flash Fiction pays like short stories, either by the word or by the piece. They're, by default, not going to pay as well because they're never going to be as long
Rose1533: What fantasy weapons?
PCarlson: but they fit the new ezines very well
Rose1533: Come now. The Weapons are standard for those times.
PCarlson: and there are now many many ezines
PCarlson: all sorts of genres and styles
Mallie1025: thanks--I might give it a shot when this monstrous book is done
PCarlson: styles
Mallie1025: Yes Rose but magical
PCarlson: Carol don't be modest
Reudaly: Yes they do, since they download easily, but many of the e-zines are on shoestring budgets. Very few pay pro rates
Rose1533: None of mine are magical.
PCarlson: we need some Mages to send into Iran right about now
PCarlson: quietly
PHeeren: ?
PCarlson: but not to get off topic . . .
Mallie1025: I mean your mystical crystals and helping aids
Rose1533: Oh, well the magicians and sorcerers who dabble in dark magic--that's a different story.
Rose1533: True, they help
Mallie1025: amen Paul--my point
PCarlson: Tom, you have a question?
PHeeren: I never write fantasy fiction, just short fiction for adults and children...is it ok with you?
Reudaly: Absolutely
PHeeren: oh
Reudaly: Why?
Reudaly: I know more about genre fiction than mainstream, but good short fiction is good short fiction
PHeeren: well, I have written many stories since 1994
Mallie1025: I think e-zines and e-books will take off fast now that those hand held reading things are coming out--forgot the name of them
Reudaly: As soon as they have a better distribution and the prices come down, I believe you'll be right
PHeeren: do children's stories get published in ezines?
Reudaly: Then we may, indeed, see a resurgence of fiction to fit on a screen
PCarlson: there are supposed to be some really good Ebook Readers coming out soon
Reudaly: Some do. I haven't done a lot of children's writing, but I know there are some out there
Mallie1025: and with e-zines you get much better royalties since it's cheaper to publish
PCarlson: none good enuf for me yet . . .
Rose1533: I can just see my book on a small hand-held screen. NOT!
Reudaly: Sams' Dot Press does short children's fiction and I think some are ezine
PCarlson: a big (page sized) screen! brightly lit, even
PCarlson: supposedly . . .
Rose1533: It's still 635 pages!
Mallie1025: Rose you might change your mind when you get 50% royalties
Reudaly: But it's less than a megabyte of space and if a reader holds sever GIGs of space, think of all the books you can travel with
Rose1533: How would I go about getting that???
PCarlson: http://samsdotpublishing.com/purchasecenter/anthologies.htm
PCarlson: this Sam's Dot ?
PCarlson: looks awfully "adult" to me (?)
Reudaly: I believe so. They do adult and children's stuff. Actually I need to contact them, I was supposed to be in an anthology is Spring, I think
Mallie1025: Rhonda you are so right--I hate e-books --love the feel of a book--but it's coming and I thing this pc generation will grab it
Reudaly: Some will, some won't. I personally like paper. I'd buy paper - you can't get an ebook autographed (yet)
Reudaly: But I have missionary friends overseas who'd love to be able to carry their entire library on the plane
PCarlson: http://samsdotpublishing.com/kids/main.htm
PCarlson: here we go
Reudaly: There you go
Reudaly: I'm in their adult (not "Adult") antho PANIC
PCarlson: you grownup, you
Reudaly: A weird piece with some bits of humor
Mallie1025: Rhonda--can you give us a link to your website?
Reudaly: surely.
Reudaly: www.rhondaeudaly.com (Keyword to: www.rhondaeudaly.com)
Reudaly: It's in reconstruction at the moment, but there's some stuff there
Reudaly: Just found out today that one of the anthos I'm in DIDN'T win the Bram Stoker award
Reudaly: Sigh
Reudaly: It really is an honor just to be nominated
PCarlson: just got an email about that
PCarlson: today
PCarlson: our recent guest speaker DID win that award!
Mallie1025: Beautiful site!! I have it in favs to read later
Reudaly: Thanks!
PCarlson: Jonathan Maberry
PCarlson: see I told him we are good luck!
Reudaly: What was he nominated for? Anthology?
PCarlson: first novel
Reudaly: Good for him!
PCarlson: do not know the details
Reudaly: Yeah well, he's still catching up on sleep from World Horror last weekend, I'm sure
Reudaly: Or they haven't pealed him off the ceiling yet from all the excitement
Reudaly: Or both
PCarlson: I imagine so
Mallie1025: He 's quite a guy--sure seems to know how to market himself
PHeeren: so I'd better go get ready for bed so goodnight and take care, guys
Mallie1025: Nite Tom sleep well
PHeeren: thanks
Rose1533: Night, Tom.
Reudaly: Marketing oneself is just as important as writing a brilliant story
Reudaly: Really it is
PHeeren: goodnight Adam, Paul, carol and guys
Rose1533: I'd go to signings in costume.
Rose1533: Long bow included.
Mallie1025: I know and I hate it--when my book got accepted. I got my first writer's block just in fear of it
Mallie1025: Still not over it lol
Reudaly: There's a line -- you can go in CHARACTER or in COSTUME. Make sure you know the difference
Reudaly: There is one.
Mallie1025: Haha
PCarlson: I have not heard that line
PCarlson: can you explain?
Reudaly: Just came up with it.
Reudaly: And gladly.
Rose1533: Hmm. Hard to say. I'd sign in my name, not my character's, so I guess it would be in costume.
Rose1533: Though I might sport a British accent.
Reudaly: No... no so much.
Reudaly: When the FOUR REDHEADS do a signing we do it in character
PCarlson: ah
Reudaly: We dress the part, have the props, do the personalities
PCarlson: they buy a book, get a signature, then die
Rose1533: I'm 40 years older than my character.
Reudaly: But we autograph properly (and then attribute to the character)
Rose1533: Sorry. 30
Reudaly: Rie Sheridan always comes in character and in keeping with her book theme
Reudaly: She's shy, it's the only way she can talk to people
Rose1533: When I answer the door on Halloween, I do it in character.
PCarlson: hey, if it works
Reudaly: But if you didn't know that, you'd think she was one of the customers at the convention
Reudaly: I always thought that and thought she was a bit weird, until I knew what she was doing
PCarlson: her and the Klingons, eh?
Rose1533: Wonder if they could set up a target for me? Hee hee!
Reudaly: The short form answer is this...
PCarlson: I thought from her pen name that she was Japanese
Rose1533: Of course, I have no arrows as yet.
Mallie1025: good idea--I need to market incognito too lol--way shy
Reudaly: Going in Character has a point -- it's promoting your book/story
PCarlson: Rie and Rieko are very Japanese names
Reudaly: Going in costume is just dressing up for the heck of it and serves no marketing purpose
PCarlson: ah
Reudaly: Unless you're meant to be a table babe and show cleavage to sell books
Reudaly: Then there may be a purpose
Mallie1025: Now there's an idea lol
PCarlson: <-- cannot accomplish that
PCarlson: I could arm wrestle all comers
Reudaly: If it corresponds to something in your book, do it.
Mallie1025: I want to be like Garbo--"I vant to be alone." Just read my books and let me be.
Reudaly: It'll only drive people to your table
PCarlson: hmm . . .
Rose1533: Can't show cleavage.
Rose1533: The characters don't.
PCarlson: between Yard Dog and Whortleberry, I will have more anthology-mates from now on
PCarlson: when is the Houston anthology coming out?
Rose1533: With good reason that the regulars here know, but would take to long to explain.
Reudaly: Oh yes, and we help each other.
Reudaly: June or July. By Conestoga
PCarlson: way until summer
PCarlson: okay, can wait
PCarlson: am showing everyone my book that arrived Saturday
Rose1533: Huh?
PCarlson: "Fall and Rise" in which my story is third of thirteen
Reudaly: We take into account that not all of us can easily make fools of oneself, but being part of Yard Dog is a lot of fun
Mallie1025: what's the site for yard dog--had it but lost it
Rose1533: Cool!
Reudaly: www.yarddogpress.com (Keyword to: www.yarddogpress.com)
Mallie1025: ahh missed the "press' part--thanks!!:
Reudaly: I'm in INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF BUBBAS, MORE STORIES THAT WON'T MAKE YOUR PARENTS HURL, and FOUR REDHEADS OF THE APOCALYPSE
Reudaly: Just to get my blurbs in
Reudaly:
Reudaly: As we say at YDP, I'm a good writer 'ho
Mallie1025: Nice going!!
Reudaly: Thanks
Reudaly: Oh, and FLUSH FICTION!
Reudaly: Can't forget FLUSH FICTION
PCarlson: yes, we share that title
Reudaly: Who are you, then?
PCarlson: Paul, with "Props"
PCarlson: right after Selina's opener
Reudaly: You have two sign-ons then?
Reudaly: This is why I'm confused
PCarlson: <-- Man of a Thousand Screen Names
Reudaly: Yes, you are definitely one of us... sneaky and devious, but in a good way
PCarlson: I'm "cuebon" on the YDP mail list
Reudaly: I was wondering why you left all of a sudden.
Reudaly: Now I know
PCarlson: I was here all along
PCarlson: can be here with 3 or 4 names at once
Reudaly: Ow
Reudaly: That seems like it would hurt
PCarlson: I know one discussion board guy who used eleven screen names to post on one single thread
Mallie1025: Rhonda--great meeting--maybe I'll see you in Yard dog some time
Reudaly: And for the record, the Stoker nominated antho is AEGRI SOMNIA at www.apexdigest.com (Keyword to: www.apexdigest.com)
Mallie1025: Paul great chat--gotta run
PCarlson: when I mentioned this, he said his head DOES hurt. And I believe that
Reudaly: Nice meeting you
PCarlson: is that Greek or Latin or something?
Mallie1025: Night all --stay well
PCarlson: g'nite Micki
Reudaly: This is why people write - to get all the voice OUT of their head and on paper so they don't hurt
PCarlson: poor guy has no fiction credits that I know of
PCarlson: told him straight out, you have the skills for a zillion characters already
Reudaly: Are ya sure? Could be just using another name/personality
Rose1533: Paul, who is the publisher of the anthology you are in?
PCarlson: why fool around on one corner of the Internet only?
Rose1533: "Fall and Rise"?
Reudaly: No, no, no, you always spread yourself around
PCarlson: http://www.whortleberrypress.com/
PCarlson: my copies arrived here Saturday
PCarlson: my boss has it now
Reudaly: How are they to work with? I've seen their stuff
Reudaly: online
PCarlson: I could hardly turn down his request to borrow it
PCarlson: so far, so good
Reudaly: Make sure you get it back -- or money from him
Reudaly:
PCarlson: hit it off with Mr. Khan, the editor, right away
Rose1533: Cool! I saw your name there!
PCarlson: know him from the Asimov's board
PCarlson: of Asimov's magazine
Reudaly: That's awesome. A good working relationship with an editor is worth its weight in gold
Rose1533: Bedtime, here. Night all.
PCarlson: I will Rhonda
Reudaly: A good editor is even better
PCarlson: this was his first anthology and now he is "hooked" as well
PCarlson: plans more
Reudaly: Nice
Reudaly: The editor?
Reudaly: Or the boss?
PCarlson: yep
PCarlson: my boss, I dunno
PCarlson: hope he buys a copy, is all
PCarlson: Mr. Khan said, Greenberg move over, but in a nicer way
Reudaly: Nice. That's one thing I don't understand. All these publishers that say anthos don't sell, when we've seen that they DO if you just give them some advertising and writers some incentive to do it
Reudaly: SWEET
Reudaly: Since I have little hope of selling to Marty Greenberg anytime soon
PCarlson: what I love is, I share the book with one of my fave SF authors
Reudaly: But this guy... maybe
PCarlson: who allowed a reprint
Reudaly: Which one?
PCarlson: Robert Sawyer
Reudaly: I've met him. Nice guy. Sweetheart
Reudaly: But I understand you. I scanned and cut out the part of the FenCon program book (they do anthos for each convention) and my name was right under Larry Niven's on the cover
PCarlson: I reviewed his recent serial in Analog
Reudaly: I was giddy
Reudaly: Sawyer's wife wasn't sure if she'd ever met Selina Rosen.
PCarlson: if she had, she would remember
Beccastrat: Well - I'm gonna sign out of here for the night guys. Rhonda...thank you for coming to W2P. Great session!
Reudaly: Robert and I said in unison, "If you'd met her, you'd know"
PCarlson: heh, heh
PCarlson: ROFL
Reudaly: Thank you. I hope you had a good time
PCarlson: thanks Becki
Beccastrat: I did. Goodnight everyone!
Reudaly: Good night
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PCarlson: well it's far beyond the hour
PCarlson: only once has our group been followed by a later one
BrownDvs: Goodnight, everyone.
PCarlson: that was just for a month or so
BrownDvs: Rhonda, excellent session, my dear.
PCarlson: years back
BrownDvs: Robert, nice to have ye.
Reudaly: Thanks.
Reudaly: Are we done?
PCarlson: are we?
BrownDvs: It is past the hour. lol
PCarlson: yeah, I suppose all good things must come to an end
BrownDvs: You guys can go on, but I gotta roll.
PCarlson: Robert has been very quiet
Reudaly: Well, unless there's some other coals for me to be raked over.
PCarlson: amazing for a Yard Doggie
Reudaly: Yes, Robert HAS been very quiet
PCarlson: poke him
Reudaly: I'm afraid
Robert D Brown: Lynn calls me invisible
Reudaly: Lynn would be right
PCarlson: Hey I read a story about a invisible guy
PCarlson: somewhere
Reudaly: Just once or twice
Reudaly: I hope tonight hasn't been too random
PCarlson: thanks very much for coming
PCarlson: I will probably ask Jim B, next time
Reudaly: cool
PCarlson: unless someone invites another speaker real quick, as does happen
PCarlson: plus we have contests
PCarlson: but not on a fixed schedule
Reudaly: We'll I'm glad we finally got to this.
Reudaly: What kind of contest?
PCarlson: you have been very patient
PCarlson: whacky themes
Reudaly: Ahh
Reudaly: For story writing?
PCarlson: we dream them up then write a short to fit
PCarlson: up to 1850 words
PCarlson: no minimum
Reudaly: I LOVE challenges like that
PCarlson: this will be, I think, Contest #31
Reudaly: The challenge is to come up with something different from what others will do
Reudaly: Coolness
PCarlson: there is always a variety -- a spread
PCarlson: but some eerie similarities happen, too
Reudaly: Well, yeah, given a set of elements, that's going to happen
PCarlson: only open to W2P members or I'd go nuts
Reudaly: The trick is to work it out so that the elements are used in a creative manner
Reudaly: No kidding
PCarlson: even got some unsolicited entries
Reudaly: We used to do it in FanFic communities all the time
PCarlson: had to play the Bad Guy
Reudaly: Silly people
Reudaly: Bet that was hard
PCarlson: not my favorite role
Reudaly: In my office, I'm Good Cop, my boss is Bad Cop
PCarlson: we have maybe 100 eligible people
Reudaly: Wow. And only 7 showed up tonight.
PCarlson: move to a small town and be Good and Bad Cop, both
Reudaly: Sorry about that
Reudaly: I pimped it, I really did
PCarlson: this is a typical crowd, on the small side
Reudaly: Don't want to do both, but man can you see the two headed monster story coming out of that????
PCarlson: that 100 includes former members who only show up for stuff like the Contests
Reudaly: Good to know. I feel better
Reudaly: One of you can adopt that plot bunny, if you like
PCarlson: the biggest crowds we had were for Tom Clancy and Piers Anthony
Reudaly: Gee, I wonder why?
PCarlson: both got much "word of mouth" and AOL promotion
Reudaly: Though I did look a bit at the Ben Bova chat. He had a reprint in the Apex Digest issue of the print zine I was in
Reudaly: I'll bet
PCarlson: cool
PCarlson: he was a trooper
Reudaly: Yeah
PCarlson: the second chat was from a hotel room
Reudaly: he'd have to be with the time differences
PCarlson: from his laptop, halfway thru a NASA conference
Reudaly: He left Sri Lanka? Or whatever it's called now?
Reudaly: NICE
PCarlson: Bova? or Clarke?
Reudaly: Priorities, baby, priorities.
Reudaly: Oh, you're right
Reudaly: Sorry
PCarlson: love to have Clarke but that's not in the cards -- maybe if a Monolith intervenes?
Reudaly: The story I wrote was a nod to Clarke and it's late
Reudaly: I blame Monday
PCarlson: well it's dinner time
Reudaly: It's bed time
Reudaly: I've got an hour commute in the morning
PCarlson: g'nite and sweet plot worthy dreams
Robert D Brown: yuck
Reudaly: LOL
PCarlson: I start work at 6 to beat the jams
PCarlson: see 'ya'll around
Reudaly: I hear ya!
Robert D Brown: Night Rhonda <<hugs>>

4/2/07 8:24:36 PM Closing "Chat Log 4-2-07"

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